Interview: Dr Rosie Freedman, PhD, Health Psychologist
Interview: Dr Amanda Wood PhD, Counselling Psychologist
Interview: Kay Cumbers, Lecturer in Adult Education
Interview: Maria Chamorro, Hospice Carer and Volunteer
Interview: Dilara Kuru, PhD, Organisational Psychologist
Interview: Andras Keleti, Clinical Psychologist
Video interview transcripts with psychologists about the hypnotherapy training
Dr. Rosie Freeman PhD, MSc, DPsych, Health Psychologist
Interviewer: Could you introduce yourself and tell us about why you took the hypnotherapy training?
Rosie Freeman: My name is Rosie and I’m a registered health psychologist and I’m taking the training in cognitive behavioral hypnotherapy and the stress management and resilience building, because I wanted to become a qualified chemical hypnotherapist.
I particularly liked the CBH (Cognitive Behavioural Hypnotherapy) model and I want to use it in my practice. I particularly like the way the course is laid out. I liked the modules, the module content, I thought the website was very good. But the main reason, probably one of the main reasons should I say, is because it was BPS approved. Which for me, being a psychologist is very important. So, yeah.
So far, so good, yes. I’ve done stage one and stage two so far, and I’ve got stage three coming up and each day has been incredibly informative. I like the fact that it is a very vocational qualification so it’s at leas 50% practice. So you get lots of training in the different scripts and a lot of good classroom teaching as well, and I think that’s an excellent combination.
Well it’s been very interesting in terms of learning about stress inoculation training and exposure therapy, and systematic desensitization, the sort of things I’ve heard of and know a bit about from doing some CBT training. But its been very, very interesting and very useful to be getting into the sort of “nitty gritty” of, sort of, stress management particularly, and the resilience building aspects. Yeah.
Well I’ve particularly enjoyed the practical sessions. It’s great to actually be able to do it, have the experience of being a therapist and a client. I think that’s very important. It’s nice to see people that I did stage one with. It’s great to see them again, we got on very well, we bonded and it’s been very nice to work with them again, and meet new people as well.
So yeah, overall I think it’s been a good experience, and being a psychologist, obviously I know quite a bit about what’s being taught in terms of, sort of, the counseling aspect and the CBT because I’ve done training in both of those myself. But I’m glad they have those incorporated into the course materials because people coming from a completely non-therapeutic stance, they don’t have that knowledge so it’s important they have a basic understanding of those aspects.
I like the fact that they’re highly regulated by the correct bodies and they’re very strict on ensuring you have the correct supervision and all of the aspects I know, as a psychologist, are very important in terms of chemical practice, and I think that’s very good. I’m very impressed that they’ve done all of that correctly and they’ve covered all their basis.
Dr. Amanda Wood – Counseling Psychologist, DPsych
Hello. My name’s Amanda Wood, I’m a psychologist. What do I like best in the course? If I just go back to a year ago, I did stage 1 with Mark in February, last year, and I’m now on stage 2. I particularly enjoyed stage one. That really was learning about the basics of hypnotherapy with evidence based practice, and I really appreciate the evidence based practice component of the course.
This is really, really important for my work as a psychologist, to be able to utilize the hypnotherapy at work, as an evidence based therapy. As you may know a lot of people are skeptical about it and having the evidence really helps me to be able to implement that into practice.
The course feels as if people have been, almost, specially selected. Everybody has respect for one another; we appear to get on well. There is never a question of worry about whom you might work with, because whomever you work with is always respectful, congruent and empathetic.
So what that means is, I have actually been able to look at things, as certain phobias, one of my phobias being fear of deep water. And I feel this morning, after a systematic desensitization, that I will most definitely feel a lot better in the pool. This gives me the confidence, having gone through these exercises with another course college, to be able to put them into practice, and I almost feel as if I’m an advocate for the therapy.
One of the techniques I’ve found absolutely amazing is the systematic desensitization. So we’ve looked at the history of systematic desensitization, and looked at the behavioral, and the cognitive aspects of that. And as I’ve already got a knowledge of cognitive behavioral therapy, I’ve found this absolutely amazing. Being able to use that and integrate it with hypnotherapy.
And what I can say is that the hypnosis really does seem to strengthen that effect. From both stages, from stage 1 in particular, I’m already using the hypnotherapy. I use it as a form of relaxation. I did one of the workshops, “Smoking cessation”, and I adapted the script from that, and I used it for a client with chocolate addiction. But, certainly for anxiety it is a very successful method and I’ve used it with a lot of clients, very early on, in the sessions as part of my integrative work, as a therapist.
I would recommend the diploma course. One of the things that, is particularly, to estimate, is that it is all evidence based. You get two fantastic manuals with lots of information in there. Mark is great at recommending different texts, different books, he brings them along, talks about the book, why he would recommend it. So that actually gives us some supplemented learning that we can go away and take, and read as we wish. We can ask questions, the questions will always be answered.
Maria Chamorro, BSc (Psych), Special Needs Helper and Psychologist Volunteer in Children’s Hospice
My name is Maria, I come from Stoke-on-Trent, near Birmingham, and I’m a psychologist. I have a degree in psychology and I actually felt it was useful for my career to become a hypnotherapist.
Because it’s evidence based, and straight away when I saw that online I thought, “Wow, I need to do that”. I mean I really want things that are scientifically based and this course proves it with many, many different investigations that they have done. That proves to yourself too that hypnosis works, and all the history that is behind.
Now we are kind of, so stage one is more related to hypnosis, and actually how to be hypnotized and how to do self-hypnosis, and all these kind of techniques. And now its actually quite interesting for me because you cover kind of mixed different techniques that you have learned as a psychologist, at least I have learned, with hypnosis. So for example we have done systematic desensitization, and usually I did it before with Jacobson’s technique, like progressive muscle relaxation, and now we have done it with hypnosis, and you can see how it changed and how good it is sometimes to add hypnosis to that. So yeah.
I’m hoping to use it especially with pain control. I think hypnosis is really effective, like keeping the pain low and I would like to use it with people that are dying. At the end of their life that have a lot of pain and they cannot control it, so I think hypnosis would be a good thing to do. And maybe with children too because it is really effective for children.
First, as a therapist you learn to be with other people, and each person comes with a different background, so each person is different, so you need different skills to work with different people. And another thing that I like a lot is as a client you also receive different ways to do the same technique, so you can learn from that too. Yeah.
Andras Keleti, Clinical Psychologist, MSc, Private therapist
I’m a psychologist with a master’s degree in clinical health psychology and I finished the course a year ago. When I was doing the course, I was already working in a mental health setting. I worked in a psychiatric hospital so I could start to use these methods there with psychiatric patients. Right now I have private clients in London and I really like this approach.
I had high expectations for the course but I really got what I was expecting in terms of, I really feel now that I’ve got a very nice set of tools that are incorporation cognitive behavioural interventions with clinical hypnotherapy.
Interviewer: What part of the teachings did you like best?
Andras: Well, I’ll think about it. I think it was a nice balance of being educational, presenting lots of practical materials, but also, we had the opportunities to try those out, right away. So actually I found that this balance of presenting theoretical background about the techniques and also trying them out. Being on both sides of the therapy equation, so trying them out as clients and as therapists was mostly useful, I think.